But it will take years of exposure to the weather, even then. Because of that, I sometimes disable new user sign-ups. It’ll eat away lots of stuff it comes in contact with (clothes…) and must be thoroughly removed before refinishing. From the Forums: Should I worry about rust on my bike? Copyright © 2005-2019 BikePortland.org - Daily bike news since 2005. On the other hand, you'll occasionally see a rusted out frame, particularly in regions where road salt is used. Aluminum foil and masking tape works great for this. You’ll need a grinder with wire wheel, wire brush, 5-in-1 scraper, painter’s tape, masking paper, rubber gloves, and some sort of paint gun or empty spray container. If you live in Austin, Texas or Phoenix, Arizona though, you’re probably good for a while. I just hate rust as I think we all do, and here in the great Winter rust belt (PA) it's hard to avoid. The Wooden Wall Frame is used for Base Building. … Disagreements are encouraged, but only if done with tact and respect. Made by SEM, Rust Mort uses phosphoric acid to convert existing rust into phosphate (a hard, black surface ready for painting). Use some chain lube (Tri-Flow or a bike specific lube and not WD40). Rust Busting: How to Revive a Corroded Frame. Obviously, you won’t want everything underneath the truck painted or hit with rust reformer, so take time to cover up things like exhaust tips (or the entire exhaust system), diff covers, the transfer case and the transmission. Hey! It can be easily broke down by a Hatchet or burned down by a Flame Thrower. Rust Converter ULTRA, Highly Effective Professional Grade Rust Repair (1 Gallon) ... You do not have to worry about sanding away the rust that is visible to the naked eye, or grinding and sand blasting the metal surface to remove the rust prior to applying the Ospho metal treatment. …” Pat Franz. You can snag this stuff at Wally World for roughly $6 to $8 per 8-ounce container, and it’s also available in 10.25-ounce spray cans (note that you’ll likely need five or six bottles per coat in order to treat a crew cab truck). Got a 2017 and showing surface rust . I store my bike outdoors because there’s no room in my apartment and the basement stairs are steep and narrow. Recognizing that every individual's motoring journey is unique, we seek to give form to both untold as well as celebrated facets of the automotive world. All steel rusts. Alcohol isn’t going to help (your chain). I just put a nice cannondale slice fork on it in October, but I wouldn’t have bothered on a pos hunk of rust. Is the 3.0L Duramax Living Up To the Hype? The best advice I can give you is to just prevent more rust from developing in the future. Pedal as you drip some onto each pin/link. I got my truck back and at first glimpse it looked great. Reply. If you have rust issues that are beyond surface removal techniques, there is a product called POR 15 that seems to work pretty well. That way I can still have my truck and not have to worry about them fudging up something like they always do. If outside and inside (what you can see) is solid, you can worry about dropping the skid to clean up any rust that might be sitting between the frame and skid when you have it in your driveway. Here's how you can help: Subscribe to our emails Get headlines, Monday Roundup links, Weekend Event Guide, and job listings delivered to your inbox. As you can see in reading through the comments, by observing some basic precautionary measures, steel can hold up very well. If it’s got to be outdoors, just not being directly in the rain is the first priority. I would agree that Winnebago has a serious problem with rust around the windshield. Also clean the chain before lubing if it’s caked with dirt or street grime, or been awhile since it as last cleaned. I figure it would involve sanding off a bit of the surrounding paint, removing the rust, then repainting it, and putting a clearcoat sticker on top of it to prevent the issue from happening again. Yes! Driving Line® Accelerating Automotive Passion™ by providing a fresh angle of what fuels us. I use to think that they were a gimmick, but it actually works quite well and keeps the mess to a minimum. The body on the ‘18 and newer is aluminum, but it too can succumb to corrosion. Was wondering what people use /have done to prevent rust on there frame . As for topcoat, we prefer a gloss black finish. This stuff will take your breath away, so definitely wear some sort of ventilator or mask if you go this route. Also a tarp and some bungies and some finetuning of technique would work almost as well. Available by the quart (of which a typical truck will require about two containers per coat) or pint, Rust Mort can be had for roughly $25 to $28 per quart ($15 to $18 per pint) and you can get your hands on it via Summit Racing or O-Reilly Auto Parts. There are some pretty common methods for mitigating rust and corrosion that you can take advantage of. It also worked like magic when removing black grime from ’80’s white brake hoods. extracycle makes one for longtails, but i would imagine it would work with any bike(s). The best part about this job is that it can be as high-dollar or low-budget as you want it to be. Just remember vehicles that live indoors always avoid becoming scrap metal longer than ones living out amongst the elements. Thanks guys, any other responses are greatly appreciated. I believe you have to order direct from them. Being you live in Tx if you arent close to the gulf you probably have nothing to worry about. We invite you to get behind the wheel with us, it's certain to be an interesting drive. It helps not having as many cables and stuff exposed to wet and salt. Paint brushes get the call as well, to help evenly distribute the thicker areas of the rust reformer (once it’s applied). Do you have questions about your bike? The sooner you do it, the sooner you will stop the rust from spreading further. Here’s the one showing oil-based carbon fiber: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t1pBvTDNXE&feature=related. Surface rust isn’t something, however, that you should just ignore. It was a lease in Michigan before being bought by ford and auctioned to the dealership in south Florida. I repainted my bianchi after a frame repair, I bought it second hand in 1994 I don’t know what year it was new. A slew of common household items and garage-kept tools is all that’s needed to perform the job. The factory has to do this as the frame is assembled, of course Nissan could use better, more rust resistant steel in their frame, might add $100.00 to the price. While you still need to wear hand protection, you can ditch the ventilator when applying it. Just like auto body work, most of the effort is built into the prep process. The fact is that the vast majority of steel frames never get any internal rust proofing treatment, yet last for many many decades. The more I think about it. I'd do something about stabilizing it so it doesn't get worse now rather than later, Depending on the plans, a good dose of crank case oil, or a some rust converter and POR15 with primer and paint to seal and protect it. Once treated, and during winter, anytime the weather warms up (mid 30’s), wash your truck—or at least spray it down at the local car wash. We prefer to use the self-serve wash bays and we spend a lot more time spraying off the axles, underbody, suspension and frame than we do worrying about the windows or hood. Not to say you shouldn’t take care of exterior dings, but don’t think that will solve your problems. NOTE: We love your comments and work hard to ensure they are productive, considerate, and welcoming of all perspectives. Obviously, a lot of us can’t store our trucks for the cold months, hence one of the reasons for this article. Those in doubt go look at a 20 year old sliding screen door frame on any house, bottom channel is always corroded away. Its nearly impossible to keep the frame clean in the winter. easy really. wet. If your chain is so rusty that it is hard to move or bend, you need a new chain. 2017 XLT Fx4. http://www.yellowjersey.org/r33.html take that, carbonman!! He found a crack in the frame right above the left front leaf spring mount. 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There are some people that worry about structural integrity of the frame after drilling holes, but it's a boxed frame, making it very strong. None of these accounts are visible, but hundreds of thousands of them have been created and they are taxing our servers. Think of alllll the beaters people have kicking around in garages and sheds and locked outside coffee shops, etc. I've only really seen rust cause structural damage here in Ohio after about 12 years (thru shock towers, suspension parts, and in the worst case, where a cars rear suspension and wheel assembly attached to the unibody. Forum user “zpl” (Scott) posted a thread last week asking: I ride a steel bike that’s about four years old. Should you worry about internal rust on your new, or used, frame? Something else to keep in mind is the additional corrosive effects that bikes used in coastal salt air conditions are subject to. Framesaver isn’t so easy to find in shops, but one can will do 4 frames. Also mechanics down your way might flip out if they have to work on it. Posted by Will Vanlue (Contributor) on January 19th, 2012 at 10:30 am, [Note from publisher: Before Will shares a post from the Portland Bike Forums, I need to address a few things: Our server expert and I are currently working on issues with the forums related to spam user accounts. The gist of this is basically yes. Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by rds95991, May 22, 2018. Just shake, pull the cap off, and go to town. I’m going to keep riding it, lugged steel is great. As someone who has a dented bed due to a corroded rear leaf spring shackle letting loose, you don’t want to ignore a rust issue. Excessive frame rust has resulted in the frame almost completely disappearing, making the vehicle unsafe to drive and forced to be taken off the road. My 2002 Journey had a rusted frame … They were made with strong but thin steel, and the old paints are not so durable. Good point about being careful with Naval Jelly. Bikes with steel frames will rust when they’re left out in the rain and snow. I was given a Park Tools chain cleaner for Christmas, and it makes cleaning the chain so much easier than either removing it, or painstakingly scrubbing and cleaning it by hand. From the sounds of it, it seems like there isn't a whole lot of rust on your frame so don't worry about it. This may be a project for next summer. When it’s left exposed to these two, it tends to develop a flaky, red-brown coat. I’m surprised at how popular steel frames are here with all of the moisture. We used Rust Mort during our first treatment and we’re convinced it’s one of the best products on the market. Taking it to a bike shop is easier still. Continue on to the site and look for links to the latest articles, as soon as they are released. If that is the worst you have, I would not worry. My steel frame bike weighs all of 20 lbs. Opinion: Vehicular violence hits home again. Grit in the link-pin bearing area is what makes you work harder and wears out the chain faster. From a regional standpoint, this photo represents something truck owners in the northeast and Midwest know all too well. And another rust tip: If you see any sort of exterior paint bubbling, it’s likely an early sign of rust. There is no set time frame to rusting. There is way more steel than anything else. Some people have the mistaken perception that washing a car regularly is not a good idea because it can cause damage to… Frame Rust problem 26 Failure Date: 01/11/2019 Of all the rust failures I’ve seen, all but one or two were from the inside, and it’s hard to tell until it’s too late. If you end up buying a used car with rust problems — or if your own car has issues — … if you are going to store your bike outdoors, you should be prepared to relube moving parts and overhaul bearing surfaces a lot more frequently. Thanks! I have owned two Winne's and overall, I think they make a solid coach for the money. This can be a shock to the system at first, but don’t worry, your rusty TJ Jeep Frame is … Sure, it will never be completely eradicated, but we’ve finally got the problem under control. This stuff should be applied in at least two (if not three) coats, and allowed 2-to-6 hours of dry time in between (note that the more humid it is, the quicker it will dry). If you’ve signed up or would like to sign up, please be patient while we correct these spam/server issues. Once treated, POR-15 recommends that you topcoat over it, due to its UV ray sensitivity. But they are more likely to rust, since the paint is often poorly applied, and many components are steel with cheap paint. JDM Off-Road: Five Wild & Weird Japanese Market SUVs & 4x4s We Never Got, Sign up for more restomod content to add horsepower to your inbox. The salt of winter, the humidity of summer and a fair amount of neglect in between can do a number on your truck’s frame, axles and suspension. A chain cleaning tool makes it much easier. Depending on the condition of your frame, axles, and suspension, you could easily spend an entire 8 to 10-hour day removing rust, old paint, or undercoating). Reply. DED Project Revived for Flatfender Frame & Rust Repair Rust Repair on a 1984 Chevy S-10 Blazer Tailgate Party: ... allowing us to worry less about our frame … I'm not saying it was easy by any means but it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. Most gloss or flat black paints can be had for $7 to $8 per 12-ounce can at your local auto parts house (make sure you grab at least a dozen, as it goes quickly). (Definitely not for chains!). The other acid bike restorers and refurbishers use is oxalic acid. Save Share. What Is Rust? There is less than an inch of frame holding the rear right axle in place. The main areas to worry about are the front crumple zone and the engine cradle. Frame rust. Right near the Lower Control Arms, 2 on each frame rail. Almost everyone has to worry about rust and corrosion to some degree. Independent community journalism is vital and it needs your help to survive. You need to know where to look to prevent it from eating your Jeep’s frame from the inside out. Things didn’t improve much when we brought the truck home to Illinois, but we had a plan. Continue on to reading this issue and look for links to the latest issues, straight to your inbox, as soon as they’re released! ... have to worry about it any more. So if you’re like us and don’t quite have the funds to do a full frame-off resto but have plenty of time on your hands—this is the job for you. The vast overwhelming majority use aluminum, just as the vast overwhelming majority of aircraft makers used aluminum, and are now starting to shift to carbon fiber. Old electrowelded Schwinns are particularly sturdy, and even many cheap cruisers are very thick steel. I’ve also heard WD-40 and a steel wool pad works pretty well on surface rust. Want to talk with other people who ride in Portland and surrounding areas? That is why I weld them shut as I fix them. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2041863/Boeing-787-Dreamliner-reality-carbon-fibre-plane-delivered-Japan.html, ‘Cross Up’ indoor cyclocross event coming to The Lumberyard, City kicks off planning process for North Portland Greenway, PBOT Commissioner: “Portland witnessed a terrible tragedy”, Police say two of 10 victims in vehicular rampage were on bikes. If paint is rusting take it down to bare metal, epoxy primer it, repaint it, but the rust still might come back. I would be surprised to find most bikes are aluminum and not steel. It’s more for total tear-down restorations than for spot touch-ups. Rust is a form of combustion just like fire and can be dealt with in a similar fashion. That car was scrapped. I use a water based undercoating that is quite lightweight on all the vehicles I buy within the first few weeks and never have had any rust issues. Bike Gallery owner sells all six Portland stores to Trek Bicycle Corp, Intentional vehicular violence in southeast Portland leaves one dead, several injured, The Flanders Crossing Bridge is born, and a key bikeway comes into focus, The Monday Roundup: 'Doughnut city', unhinged cops, B2V, and more, Job: Bike Mechanic – Seven Corners Cycles, Job: Customer Service Rep – Stages Cycling, Job: Bike Mechanic / Sales Associate – Bike Clark County, Job: Experienced Bicycle Mechanic – Kenton Cycle Repair, TriMet Board Meeting (GM hiring discussion), Oregon Bicycle & Pedestrian Advisory Committee Meeting, Become an individual or business supporter, Bicycle Accident Lawyers at Law Office of Daniel H. Rose, Charley Gee P.C. One of the main issues that your TJ can face is rust, especially rust around the frame. I live in California but I’m far away from the beach to not have to worry about rust. “Death from within” is the big rust problem with bikes. rust is not the only issue. Down there, the frame is exposed to the elements. If it does matter, where can I take it to be fixed? Save Share. If you’re concerned about rusting out your frame, tear down your bike and squirt Frame Saver or one of the similar things into all the tubes. In total I replaced the drivers frame rail, drivers shock tower, torsion bar crossmember, and both inner fenders for about $1000 in parts. If you suspect rust (or anything else) might have compromised the strength of your bike, you can always take it into a shop and have a pro take a look at it. Drenching the chain in alcohol will displace the oil and soak oil/alcohol/water emulsion into the important link-pin bearings, so don’t do that. If you’re using an oil-based paint for a topcoat, a 4-hour wait period should be observed (but three days if using lacquer or aerosol paint). When I first bought it, I did hit the underside with fluid film. Cut any of these things out and the process stop. Hey everyone, first post. Best Rust Converters for Truck Frame 1. As a former Merchant Marine and a cyclist living on the coast rust has always been a big issue. If the frame is sealed out its harder for it to rust from the inside out.. Look were the factory holes in the frame are in the wheel wells where you can see what happened. We know this coat as rust, but its full chemical formula is iron(III) oxide, or Fe²O³.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLcZKGwS3zE. Post Reply. It’s been a while since we mentioned the Portland Bike Forums (We’ve got forums? You don't need to worry so much about rust like we do. I don't think they've changed jack shit in the coatings or metal thickness in years. 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